Guns 'N Roses worship band
One of these songs is a song by a Christian Artist, Heather Clark and one is by Guns 'N Roses:
Kiss with me with the kisses of Your mouth
Kiss with me with the kisses of Your mouth
Your love is better than wine
Your love is better than wine
Pleasing is the fragrance
The fragrance of Your perfume
Your name is like a perfume poured out
No wonder the maidens love You
Take me away with You
Let's hurry
Take me away with You
Let the King bring me into His chamber
I BEEN WALKIN' THE STREETS AT NIGHT
JUST TRYIN' TO GET IT RIGHT
HARD TO SEE WITH SO MANY AROUND
YOU KNOW I DON'T LIKE
BEING STUCK IN THE CROWD
AND THE STREETS DON'T CHANGE
BUT THE NAME
I AIN'T GOT TIME FOR THE GAME
'CAUSE I NEED YOU
ALL THIS TIME
If you guessed the first one as GnR then you’re wrong. That’s a worship song by Heather Clark. And they say worship music has lost theological vitality. Really? Please…it sounds more like a makeout song. All I know is this…As a testosterone based life-form I don't think I could ever bring myself to singing "Jesus I want to kiss you on the lips", but for some reason a lot of worship music has that feel to it. As a guy I'm not there. I want some killing and good ole fashion bloodletting in my music. Trampling out the vintage, loosing fateful lightning from a terrible swift sword and the like. Maybe more guys would sing worship songs if we wrote them like that.
kisses,
rZ
Kiss with me with the kisses of Your mouth
Kiss with me with the kisses of Your mouth
Your love is better than wine
Your love is better than wine
Pleasing is the fragrance
The fragrance of Your perfume
Your name is like a perfume poured out
No wonder the maidens love You
Take me away with You
Let's hurry
Take me away with You
Let the King bring me into His chamber
I BEEN WALKIN' THE STREETS AT NIGHT
JUST TRYIN' TO GET IT RIGHT
HARD TO SEE WITH SO MANY AROUND
YOU KNOW I DON'T LIKE
BEING STUCK IN THE CROWD
AND THE STREETS DON'T CHANGE
BUT THE NAME
I AIN'T GOT TIME FOR THE GAME
'CAUSE I NEED YOU
ALL THIS TIME
If you guessed the first one as GnR then you’re wrong. That’s a worship song by Heather Clark. And they say worship music has lost theological vitality. Really? Please…it sounds more like a makeout song. All I know is this…As a testosterone based life-form I don't think I could ever bring myself to singing "Jesus I want to kiss you on the lips", but for some reason a lot of worship music has that feel to it. As a guy I'm not there. I want some killing and good ole fashion bloodletting in my music. Trampling out the vintage, loosing fateful lightning from a terrible swift sword and the like. Maybe more guys would sing worship songs if we wrote them like that.
kisses,
rZ
10 Comments:
so true, so very true. For most of Evangelical Christendom the 'worship' songs were patriarchial-terminology more expressing a masculine perpective of God. MAny were written which did not express our feelings to God personally, that is, how do I feel about my relationship with him, and what does he feel about me. There is a definite swing into touch me feel me songs the last decade or so which is good, but to the extreme is where this song has swung. The lyrics are from Song of Solomom and speak of an intimate bridal relationship with the groom, but as a male who is visually predisposed, the imagry is still hard to manage. I cannot fathom kissing a male of any persuasion on the lips. (Does that make me a homophobic?) But for females these lyrics possibly are relevant to their femininity and as brides. Like I say there is a pendulum swing and we know that it will swing back at some point. So hang in there and be patient.
hahahaah...thanks Don...But I'm not sure Touch Me Feel Me is where we want to go. hahahhaha...Happy New Year.
I think the frustration with the intamacy expressed in Heather's song which is Solomon's Song has to do with the western mind-thought that we approach the word of God with. Having been raised in an Eastern area, as the Hebrew poet was, we would be less bothered. God calls these lyrics part of the BEST Song ever. This is the Song of all Songs.
If we are bothered by it, perhaps it isn't the song...it's us.
Cory
No, it's the song. Maybe some women could chime in on this one.
Rick,
I was hoping for a better response than "No, it's the song." Did the women you are asking to chime in write the blog?
I am trying to get your persepective because you wrote it from a male view point.
I am just trying to figure out how you take a whole book of the bible and say, well, rather than sing about intamacy with God, as Solomon was, I would just rather sing about people being killed. And not just killed but brutal killing at that (swords).
Maybe I am not reading into the blog the sarcasim or humor you may be insinuating and I am not trying to over react but I find it worth responding to when someone questions intamcy with God and glorifies killing.
Am I reading too much into what you wrote?
Cory
Cory,
Are you reading too much into this? Yes. You probably don't get my humour, but on a serious note, regardless of age or sex, if I was to pull this out for corporate worship it probably wouldn't make the top 10. I think you may be jumping to conclusions about my desire for intimacy with God. I want to be intimate. I just don't want to make out with Him corporately. As for pure unadulterated violence? I'm not advocating we rewrite worship to include killing, but if you were to look at the constituency of the church you would see female representation to a greater extent than male. Men would rather watch guys bashing heads in helmets than sing songs about kissing Jesus. If you like it then great for you. There's room for all of us in the kingdom.
I am female and I think that there is a time and place for everything, even the touchy feely songs.
My problem with the touchy feely lies in the fact that sometimes worship is filled with nothing but, it's all or nothing.
What I don't like about that is the fact that touchy feely songs seem to focus mostly on what God does for me (he makes me feel good) and there does not seem to be room for too much else.
Also for me, touchy feely songs seem to want to make you "feel" the presence of God. There is nothing wrong with that, but when I focus so much on the "feeling" of intimacy...where do I end up when the feeling passes?
I am in agreement with the above writer. As a female, my criticism lies in the fact that many of today's worship music does not even mention 'who' we worship. They are void of theological truth when the subject and object of my worship are absent - as in the song by HC.
If I simply said "you have to be kidding?" that might sound strange, but really. You can't ignore the culture you are in. That's why the LORD spoke about sheep not penguins. Culture has to be part of our worship context. I'm with you Rick - I couldn't sing it - not without squirming...no I just couldn't sing it.
I am amazed ~ The words for this song is directly from God's Word. I would tend to use it more in an intercession/worship context, or in my own devotional time, perhaps not for "Sunday morning worship." I do use this song very often in my devotional time. Jesus is coming for His Bride! God chose the relationship of husband and wife to correlate to the relationship of Jesus and the church. He is preparing a Bride for His son. Do you have a son? Would you want a bride for him that would know intimacy with him, or just have a surface relationship with him? There is a time for deep personal intimacy with Him. I am thankful that someone has the courage to make these songs available for us to use in our own devotional time and perhaps in a corporate devotional setting. We just used this song and others on our women's retreat as music playing in places of private prayer we provided for the women. The kisses of His mouth are His very word to us! He put his mouth to Adam and breathed the breath of life into him. If you were in need of CPR, and the only one there to give it to you was a man, would you not want him to put his lips on your mouth and breathe life's breath into you? You would be unconcious, you wouldn't really have a choice. God gives us a choice.....
I am a woman by the way.....
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